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“Trade offs”
“Key qualities to make it easier”
Someone 's actions remind you how good or solid human being they are to overcome the person’s idiosyncrasies. “Constantly reminding you with their actions they are a good person.”
A large majority of people that actually stay together are unhappy.
There is a small minority that are happy and stay together
Consciousness (real kindness. Thoughtful just to care for the other without wanting something in return “not nice not a pushover, but consciousness actions)
Flexibility neuroticism ( Relatively stable mental ability, a person is open and adaptable)
Low to moderate adventurous ( high adventurous would be a person seeking new shiny thing”, the low moderate adventurous are the person happy with what they have)
“High adventurous predicts cheating”
“There is no one personality model that is perfect”
Book to titled The Science of Happily Ever After by Ty Tashiro
Suggested you may only get to choose three things about a person
How to find a person with these qualities?
Remove the motivation of hotness, height, money
Character logical abuse. Someone that is interested in power behavior that is tied to their personality.
Viper personality They will zing a person and then be calm after they get their zing in.
Bullies Just cruel
Is it possible to be too different?
What really matters is the connection.
What matters is handling conflict well, and communication well. And what you are doing to keep the relationship alive.
Key core differences
70% of couples arguments about these topics
“It is the way the couple addresses these topics that matter.”
issues, religion, politics, raising a child sharing the workload.
The goal is to recognize that some of the problems are not solvable. The goal is to prevent them from being “gridlock issues”.
Need to be able to communicate the issues calmly and with curiosity just to understand the other partner NOT to change the other person.
“Unlearn they way you argue”
One person asks questions and the other person answers.
Accepting responsibility, but don’t drill down on the person that is accepting responsibility even if it is small.
“Why do people get drawn to partners to fix?” (41. Minutes part)
Earning love
If your relationship is solid, then it is easier to let the small things go.
“A team” , “Us against the world together”
Friendship levels (47 minutes)
John and Julie Gottman
50 years of study
The couples of the most satisfied really strong friendships
Said nice things to each other
Anticipated things in their partner’s life
Checked in their partner’s life at the end of the day.
Stayed married and happiest
Sound Relationship House
A lot of advice here!
Avoid the four horsemen the most predictive of divorce
(even if they stay together they will be unhappy)
Criticism
Contempt (power dynamic putting someone down)
Defensiveness (forgetting the other person is on your team)
Stonewalling ( don’t want to validate your partner)
1+1=3
Two people come together and make something they could not do without the other person.
“How can I use our relationship as a vehicle to make our lives better?”
Detox from previous relationship patterns
Recommend getting a therapist trained in the Gottman therapy
“Doing a couple therapy can be harmful because it can be based on a therapist who is just winging it.”
IF the therapy is just letting you unload on your partner it will burn your partner and not build the relationship.
(is not paid to recommend Gottman therapy)
There are software apps that are available and videos if you are not able to have the actual therapist available in Gottman therapy.
Break ups (1 hr 5 minutes)
Getting over a break up
“Drug withdrawal” response
“In a relationship there are patterns of activities that you do together. Dealing with stress of leaving the relationship. “Empty pockets of time.” Withdrawal from physical intimacy.
Like a drug will start to fantasize the relationship and want it back. Help to remember the feeling of rock bottom, and think of the worst time. And find an activity to feel those empty pockets of time. As you get more tired during the day, your executive functions decrease by the end of the day. Less controlled and aware of why you made this smart decision. Go to bed.”
Spandrels (psychology) 1hr 15 minutes
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JohnNZ wrote: For those who has the patience to listen through the whole podcast. How much do you agree or disagree?
I enjoyed the podcast.
I am very thankful that at the beginning of the end of my marriage I went to marriage counseling. My ex-husband declined to go. I went for a whole year to learn why I failed and what I needed to change about me to have a successful relationship. Then I continued counseling for another year to improve myself as a person.
The relationship grief/ break up is real!! Even for awful relationships.
I agree with every point in the podcast thank you for sharing.
There was plenty of new information in this podcast. I enjoyed learning about the friendship levels and will look into the Gottman information.
I also enjoyed the idea of no two people are too far apart, to be together as long as they are kind, and considerate of the other person.
I feel that if a person where to follow the advice on this podcast they would pick a good partner.
I made the notes because I think this is a great topic and I want to see this thread grow.



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Ah, the John Gottman! His and his wife's research has been quoted all over! besides the Gottmans "The Four Horsemen" of relationship which predict high certainty of ending of the relationship. Have you heard of the "Gottman ratio" which says that for a healthy relationship to thrive, there should be a ratio of five positive interactions for every one negative interaction. And there cannot be only(or too much like 13 and above) positive interaction either! The relationship gets "boring".
It is interesting to learn that no two people can be too far part. I think it really is about if you and your partner are both "consciousness". If both of you are kind and compassionate towards each other, knowing each other are always coming with a good intention but from different backgrounds. We just need a bit more listnening and understanding to each other, to see what the good intentions are and where they are from.
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JohnNZ wrote: I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
Ah, the John Gottman! His and his wife's research has been quoted all over! besides the Gottmans "The Four Horsemen" of relationship which predict high certainty of ending of the relationship. Have you heard of the "Gottman ratio" which says that for a healthy relationship to thrive, there should be a ratio of five positive interactions for every one negative interaction. And there cannot be only(or too much like 13 and above) positive interaction either! The relationship gets "boring".
It is interesting to learn that no two people can be too far part. I think it really is about if you and your partner are both "consciousness". If both of you are kind and compassionate towards each other, knowing each other are always coming with a good intention but from different backgrounds. We just need a bit more listnening and understanding to each other, to see what the good intentions are and where they are from.
Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed the information. Using this format any relationship with two people following this format is going to be happy and healthy. I did not know about the Gottman ratio but it makes sense. When people are putting forth effort, we want our effort recognized and praise by the person we are trying to please is motivating. It is easier to make changes in ourselves for our partner if we feel our partner genuinely likes us.
When working with kids I don't conscientiously use a 5 to 1 ratio to help motivated and change behavior. I try to use positive praise all day for the behaviors I am seeking, so that when they do break a rule (hitting, biting, etc) they are more willing to hear my correction and will come back and say "did you see Miss. T" ( Lol they can't say my name) I didn't hit them. They want that approval, and I am happy to celebrate their efforts! It is a positive cycle.
Adults are harder, we have negative experiences, that cause us to be defensive when someone is trying to share how our actions impacted them.
Do you feel this podcast has given you tools to try a healthy and happy relationship?
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Summerbreeze wrote:
JohnNZ wrote: I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
Ah, the John Gottman! His and his wife's research has been quoted all over! besides the Gottmans "The Four Horsemen" of relationship which predict high certainty of ending of the relationship. Have you heard of the "Gottman ratio" which says that for a healthy relationship to thrive, there should be a ratio of five positive interactions for every one negative interaction. And there cannot be only(or too much like 13 and above) positive interaction either! The relationship gets "boring".
It is interesting to learn that no two people can be too far part. I think it really is about if you and your partner are both "consciousness". If both of you are kind and compassionate towards each other, knowing each other are always coming with a good intention but from different backgrounds. We just need a bit more listnening and understanding to each other, to see what the good intentions are and where they are from.
Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed the information. Using this format any relationship with two people following this format is going to be happy and healthy. I did not know about the Gottman ratio but it makes sense. When people are putting forth effort, we want our effort recognized and praise by the person we are trying to please is motivating. It is easier to make changes in ourselves for our partner if we feel our partner genuinely likes us.
When working with kids I don't conscientiously use a 5 to 1 ratio to help motivated and change behavior. I try to use positive praise all day for the behaviors I am seeking, so that when they do break a rule (hitting, biting, etc) they are more willing to hear my correction and will come back and say "did you see Miss. T" ( Lol they can't say my name) I didn't hit them. They want that approval, and I am happy to celebrate their efforts! It is a positive cycle.
Adults are harder, we have negative experiences, that cause us to be defensive when someone is trying to share how our actions impacted them.
Do you feel this podcast has given you tools to try a healthy and happy relationship?
Yeah definitely. There are many other podcasts discussed similar topics and I have listening them for a while now. They definitely helped me in my most recent relationship. Although I didn't do everything right but I was aware of those things I did right and things could use a bit more work. In comparision to previous previous relationsips, I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and thinking back now, I realised how emotionally and relationshiply immature I was.
One thing I do wanna say is that both person need to have some level of consciousness in order to turely think about what's in the podcast, reflect within ourselves and make improvement towards a better relationship. Using the 4 hoursmen for example, how many of us would actually catch oursleves stonewalling or criticising our partners in the moment when being displeased by them? And how many of us could being non defensive when being crticised? I have certainly made so many of those mistakes in my previous relationships. But in the last relationship, I was aware of them when I was making those mistakes and was able to stop and get out of those viscous cycle.
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JohnNZ wrote:
Summerbreeze wrote:
JohnNZ wrote: I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
Ah, the John Gottman! His and his wife's research has been quoted all over! besides the Gottmans "The Four Horsemen" of relationship which predict high certainty of ending of the relationship. Have you heard of the "Gottman ratio" which says that for a healthy relationship to thrive, there should be a ratio of five positive interactions for every one negative interaction. And there cannot be only(or too much like 13 and above) positive interaction either! The relationship gets "boring".
It is interesting to learn that no two people can be too far part. I think it really is about if you and your partner are both "consciousness". If both of you are kind and compassionate towards each other, knowing each other are always coming with a good intention but from different backgrounds. We just need a bit more listnening and understanding to each other, to see what the good intentions are and where they are from.
Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed the information. Using this format any relationship with two people following this format is going to be happy and healthy. I did not know about the Gottman ratio but it makes sense. When people are putting forth effort, we want our effort recognized and praise by the person we are trying to please is motivating. It is easier to make changes in ourselves for our partner if we feel our partner genuinely likes us.
When working with kids I don't conscientiously use a 5 to 1 ratio to help motivated and change behavior. I try to use positive praise all day for the behaviors I am seeking, so that when they do break a rule (hitting, biting, etc) they are more willing to hear my correction and will come back and say "did you see Miss. T" ( Lol they can't say my name) I didn't hit them. They want that approval, and I am happy to celebrate their efforts! It is a positive cycle.
Adults are harder, we have negative experiences, that cause us to be defensive when someone is trying to share how our actions impacted them.
Do you feel this podcast has given you tools to try a healthy and happy relationship?
Yeah definitely. There are many other podcasts discussed similar topics and I have listening them for a while now. They definitely helped me in my most recent relationship. Although I didn't do everything right but I was aware of those things I did right and things could use a bit more work. In comparision to previous previous relationsips, I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and thinking back now, I realised how emotionally and relationshiply immature I was.
One thing I do wanna say is that both person need to have some level of consciousness in order to turely think about what's in the podcast, reflect within ourselves and make improvement towards a better relationship. Using the 4 hoursmen for example, how many of us would actually catch oursleves stonewalling or criticising our partners in the moment when being displeased by them? And how many of us could being non defensive when being crticised? I have certainly made so many of those mistakes in my previous relationships. But in the last relationship, I was aware of them when I was making those mistakes and was able to stop and get out of those viscous cycle.
I have not had a relationship since my divorce, 5 years ago, so I have not had a chance to practice the relationship skills on a partner. But I think the information is applicable to any positive healthy relationship.
I do agree that I was also very emotionally immature I was. But we all are starting out. I think it is different for people that grew up in homes that practice healthy relationships/marriages this becomes the standard.
In your last relationship did you invite your partner to this podcast or share this new learn information with her?
I will definitely share this with the guy that I plan to have a relationship with.
I actually send the podcast to my teen son. He is not dating now. But because i think the information can be helpful in building friendships too.
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